I was talking about this question: Was Vivekananda a proponent of birth-based caste-system or the guṇa-based?

The title question appears to me as a duplicate of the following question: Is there any explicit writing by Swami Vivekananda on his psychological theory of Varna?

The body of the question has two sub-questions, the first one of which is "Did he reject smṛtis such as Manu which seem to advocate birth-based varṇāśrama?", which appears to me as a duplicate of : Does Neo-Vedanta reject Dharma Shastras? If so, why?

Only the second question found in the body viz: "How did he interpret the Puruṣa-sūkta verse brāhmaṇo 'sya mukham ... padbhyāṃ śūdro ajāyata (brāhmaṇa was born from Puruṣa's mouth ... śūdra from his feet)?" appears to be a new one (not already asked on the site).

In this particular case or in such cases, in general, how should we go about closing the question or exactly how should we act?


We have a feature of adding more than one duplicate links in the "closed as duplicate" post-notice. So, if question can be closed as duplicate of more than one question, it is fine to cast duplicate votes but if question body have a query which is not already answered/asked e.g what you've mentioned in the question:

How did he interpret the Puruṣa-sūkta verse brāhmaṇo 'sya mukham ... padbhyāṃ śūdro ajāyata (brāhmaṇa was born from Puruṣa's mouth ... śūdra from his feet)?

Then closing as duplicate will not work properly. So, the proper action would be casting a "Needs more focus" reasoned close vote and adding comment underneath the question explaining the issue.

  • Can you please explain what part of my question needs focus? The whole focus of the question is Vivekananda's take on caste-system. I don't see how it can be improved further. Each of the sub-questions has already been answered by someone. Aug 9 '20 at 13:25
  • From this Help article: "Needs more focus - if your question has many valid answers (but no way to determine which - if any - are correct), then it probably needs to be more focused to be successful in our format." - so this is meant for vague/subjective questions, where there can be multiple correct answers. My question doesn't fall under this category. Aug 9 '20 at 13:32
  • "adding comment underneath the question explaining the issue" - I don't see a comment from you under the question explaining the closure/use of your supervote... Aug 9 '20 at 13:40
  • Okay understood .. but in the past, I have seen people trying to close such Qs as duplicate if one of the sub-questions turns out to be a duplicate. People tried it on my Q too.
    – Rickross
    Aug 9 '20 at 14:26
  • @sv. "Needs more focus" means "This question currently includes multiple questions in one. It should focus on one problem only."
    – Pandya Mod
    Aug 9 '20 at 17:17
  • @Rickross which post of your? Share the link.
    – Pandya Mod
    Aug 9 '20 at 17:19
  • "This question currently includes multiple questions in one. It should focus on one problem only." - you are missing the point and selectively quoting Help Center to defend your supervote. It clearly says, "Avoid asking multiple distinct questions at once." - when all sub-questions are closely related, this doesn't apply. Please understand the difference between 'multiple closely-connected sub-questions' and 'multiple distinct questions'. I cannot explain you any further. Aug 9 '20 at 17:24
  • Besides, I don't understand the urgency at which you closed the question using a supervote when the community is still reviewing it. Aug 9 '20 at 17:27
  • @sv. When a moderator is sure, s/he can cast close/reopen votes.
    – Pandya Mod
    Aug 9 '20 at 17:30
  • Sure, but you need to realize that you are using a supervote, so a comment under the question would've been helpful. To quote from the Theory of Moderation: "Whenever possible, try to leave frequent comments on posts where you’ve taken (or considered taking) a moderator action, explaining the reasoning." Aug 9 '20 at 17:34
  • @sv. Sure. Done!
    – Pandya Mod
    Aug 9 '20 at 17:38
  • I just noticed this question (What are the Agama scriptures? Are they related to Shruti/Vedas?) asked by you which has several sub-questions. Should it be closed as 'needs more focus' as well? Aug 9 '20 at 17:52
  • @sv. Hmm... will continue further discussion tomorrow; good night.
    – Pandya Mod
    Aug 9 '20 at 18:10
  • @Pandya It was an old post of mine. The question has 2 sub-questions. Couple of users thought that one of those sub-Q was a duplicate. But eventually my Q was not closed as apart from those 2 users no one else thought likewise.
    – Rickross
    Aug 10 '20 at 5:19
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    @sv. You yourself was urging the Mods to use their super votes more often but now when they have actually started doing it you have problems with it too.
    – Rickross
    Aug 10 '20 at 5:24

The question under discussion seems like it should be closed as "Needs more focus".

As you have noted, there are various subquestions in that single post, some of which have been asked and answered earlier, and at least one of which appears to be new. It would be beneficial if the post is broken down into multiple questions so that each of the them can be answered adequately. Asking new questions would also be better because it gives more space for the OP to expand on why the existing potential duplicates do not satisfactorily address their questions.

Note that the standard close reason "Needs more focus" has the description "This question currently includes multiple questions in one. It should focus on one problem only." This is exactly the problem the question is facing as it currently stands.

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    Thanks .. so if I close vote it as a duplicate will that be wrong?
    – Rickross
    Aug 7 '20 at 17:48
  • I think it is possible for a mod or a gold tag-badge holder to edit in multiple duplicate links, so yes, closing as duplicate(s) might be a reasonable alternative. However, there is no gold tag-badge holder in any of the tags on that question, and (it seems to me based on browsing Meta discussions that) the mods on the site move a little slowly in their actions. So, closing as "Needs more focus" is probably the more reasonable and effective solution here.
    – user9440
    Aug 7 '20 at 17:53
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    Ok but the close reason "needs focus" was previously called "too broad" or something .. now to be frank I don't really think that the Q is too broad given the fact that the sub-questions are closely linked with a single topic. But thanks for your perspective.
    – Rickross
    Aug 7 '20 at 17:55
  • There is an element of subjectivity when making such judgement calls, of course. I can see why someone could argue that the multiple questions are closely linked enough to justify leaving the question open. A consensus should be fine, in either direction.
    – user9440
    Aug 7 '20 at 17:57
  • I have accepted the other answer, although yours was posted earlier and both the answers say basically the same thing. Hope you don't mind :)
    – Rickross
    Aug 14 '20 at 12:05
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    @Rickross Not at all, thanks for letting me know :)
    – user9440
    Aug 14 '20 at 12:06

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